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Mkwawa shujaa's avatar

As a man united fan, congratulations on reaching us (league titles).

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Stephen Blackford's avatar

My Mum was a Man Utd fan and I know she would have been pleased last Sunday. Thanks for your note.

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Mkwawa shujaa's avatar

You are welcome, watching Liverpool vs Chelsea now.

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The Copernican Shift's avatar

I'm curious, in this league-clinching match, how big was McAllister's goal from a Liverpool point of view. I'm thinking five ten years down the line. Will this be one of the moments that fans recall when this story is told? I see it clinched the match and therefore the PL league title.

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Stephen Blackford's avatar

Mac Allister’s goal was a real beauty, a nerve settler and a reversal of a 0-1 deficit to a 2-1 lead, but the day as a whole was a coronation of the champions and almost certain win. I see two victories as pivotal and indicative that Liverpool would win the League - Brentford away at the end of January and Man City away at the end of February. I was sure they’d win the League after the Brentford game, but certain of it when they defeated City. Unreal season considering the leaving of one manager and his replacement winning the big one at the first attempt. Arne Slot sure has set the bar high for future seasons!

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The Copernican Shift's avatar

I've read up on Brentford, thanks.

Please tell me more about Man City at the end of Feb.

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Stephen Blackford's avatar

City were the defending champions, 4 time winners of the Premier League, recent treble winners, continual contest for top dog during Jurgen Klopp’s reign and battles won but never the war. Under Arne Slot, two 2-0 victories across the season, barely gave them a chance to score in either game and 2-0 up in their home ground after 30+ minutes, eased to half-time and cruised to an easy victory. A changing of the guard. The champs were dead. Long Live the (new) champs.

Man City are “new money”, no real history, always second best in their own city let alone country wide. Not a particularly liked or loved team. Huge overseas backers, overnight success (kind of) and under Pep Guardiola damn near unbeatable (except for battle losses, but wars won) against Liverpool.

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The Copernican Shift's avatar

Thanks. I get this. "The changing of the guard" is as clear as the Tott game, which you said was a coronation overall. I also know a little about Man City's relatively recent emergence. Off the top of my head, I vaguely recall them winning their first recent title after something like 44 years...?

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Stephen Blackford's avatar

My knowledge (off the top of my head) on City is shaky (not my team, don't care!) but their title win in 2011/2012 was their first for......? then a couple of manager changes...but since 2016 and Pep Guardiola taking over they've won it all, and won it all multiple times. Staggering recent history, off the charts, unprecedented stuff. City have always been and been seen as a local Manchester team whereas Man Utd are a global team much like Liverpool. But that's down to sustained success over generations and European Cups/Champions league triumphs. They'll be back next season - Guardiola is only a season maybe two away from leaving, and he won't be leaving a loser.

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The Copernican Shift's avatar

I have noted City’s rise. I would have thought that their following would have had a major bump on their brand. Foreign talent effect and all that . So, I got you on Man U and Liverpool, but of the English sides which others are in the same league, in this global context?

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The Copernican Shift's avatar

I will have more for you on this shortly, Stephen. Thanks for answering!

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Stephen Blackford's avatar

No worries, my pleasure. Always happy to respond to such thoughtful comments. Take it easy.

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The Copernican Shift's avatar

If you liked the Fibonacci stuff, check out my data.

Otherwise, totally ignore it.

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